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		<title>By: The Pine Hills News &#124; pine hills - rosemont - west orlando &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Black Homicides Fuel Nation’s Murder Surge</title>
		<link>http://afrospear.com/2007/04/25/black-homicides-fuel-nations-murder-surge/#comment-77</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Francis L. Holland</title>
		<link>http://afrospear.com/2007/04/25/black-homicides-fuel-nations-murder-surge/#comment-75</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve heard some people recently questioning and criticizing Blacks for being unwilling to help the police to investigate and prosecute alleged crimes.  I can think of two valid and legitimate reasons why this would be so:

(1)  When police are called to Black neighborhoods, the often arrest and abuse anyone they see rather than focusing their efforts on those who are actually committing crimes.  As a result, a Black person calling the police to a Black neighborhood is analogous to a Jewish person in Nazi Germany calling to a Jewish neighborhood; the result is that ALL people hated by authorities will suffer, and not just those who were the intended focus of the call to authorities.

As was the case with Ron and Roy Pettaway in Georgia recently, someone called the police to a bar frequented by Black people after Ron Pettaway was engaged in a disagreement, but police saw fit to shoot both Ron AND Roy Pettaway from behind.  The clear message to Blacks is that a call to police presents a danger to ALL BLACKS, and not just the intended target of the call.

(2)   After police charge defendants, they often seek a to elicit damning information against others by offering a lesser charge or sentence to the person who has been arrested.  If the arrested person gives information - even false information and testimony - to police to reduce his own jeopardy, that may well result in several other Black people being arrested, charged and convicted of crimes which they may or may not have convicted. 

Although for white people calling the police represents a way to right wrongs and redress grievances, Blacks are very likely to rue and grieve the moment when they decided to call the forces of police occupation to their neighborhoods and homes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard some people recently questioning and criticizing Blacks for being unwilling to help the police to investigate and prosecute alleged crimes.  I can think of two valid and legitimate reasons why this would be so:</p>
<p>(1)  When police are called to Black neighborhoods, the often arrest and abuse anyone they see rather than focusing their efforts on those who are actually committing crimes.  As a result, a Black person calling the police to a Black neighborhood is analogous to a Jewish person in Nazi Germany calling to a Jewish neighborhood; the result is that ALL people hated by authorities will suffer, and not just those who were the intended focus of the call to authorities.</p>
<p>As was the case with Ron and Roy Pettaway in Georgia recently, someone called the police to a bar frequented by Black people after Ron Pettaway was engaged in a disagreement, but police saw fit to shoot both Ron AND Roy Pettaway from behind.  The clear message to Blacks is that a call to police presents a danger to ALL BLACKS, and not just the intended target of the call.</p>
<p>(2)   After police charge defendants, they often seek a to elicit damning information against others by offering a lesser charge or sentence to the person who has been arrested.  If the arrested person gives information &#8211; even false information and testimony &#8211; to police to reduce his own jeopardy, that may well result in several other Black people being arrested, charged and convicted of crimes which they may or may not have convicted. </p>
<p>Although for white people calling the police represents a way to right wrongs and redress grievances, Blacks are very likely to rue and grieve the moment when they decided to call the forces of police occupation to their neighborhoods and homes.</p>
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		<title>By: asabagna</title>
		<link>http://afrospear.com/2007/04/25/black-homicides-fuel-nations-murder-surge/#comment-72</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent commentary Temple 3! 

I invite you to submit any essays you wish to share with the AfroSphere via being posted on our main page. Please send to afrospear@hotmail.com. Your insights and perspective certainly fits into the &quot;think tank&quot; format of what we are tryiing to accomplish with this blog. 

Blessings
Asa]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent commentary Temple 3! </p>
<p>I invite you to submit any essays you wish to share with the AfroSphere via being posted on our main page. Please send to <a href="mailto:afrospear@hotmail.com">afrospear@hotmail.com</a>. Your insights and perspective certainly fits into the &#8220;think tank&#8221; format of what we are tryiing to accomplish with this blog. </p>
<p>Blessings<br />
Asa</p>
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		<title>By: Temple3</title>
		<link>http://afrospear.com/2007/04/25/black-homicides-fuel-nations-murder-surge/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Temple3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve written some pieces I&#039;m willing to share here on this topic.  Fundamentally, if Black folk are to ever have any peace of mind whatsoever, we have to prioritize and achieve world-class mastery in math, science and culture.  Each of these pursuits is dynamic - and it&#039;s not about the judgment, it&#039;s about the journey.  

Imperatives are clear - and the only thing that will really matter to subsequent generations is the work that we put in.  If you do the math across the board - quantify highly-skilled black folk in various walks of life + fiscal independence + cultural fidelity (and that can look many, many ways) = rudiments of strong families, communities and a civilization identifiable by CONTIGUOUS activities and values.

I&#039;m not moralizing here.  I&#039;m not suggesting a form of cultural elitism.  I&#039;m suggesting that we master ourselves for the sake of developing entities, organizations and collectives capable of viable inter-dependence with the rest of the world.  This is not entirely about white folks - and I don&#039;t center them in my frameworks.  It is about the historical marker of this time and this space.

Black culture does not have to prove itself to anyone.  It is attacked, but it does not have to respond...it exists as a dynamic, fungible panorama - and it will be here and it will morph and it will make money and create jobs and do all the things it has always done.  Hip-hop is our SIXTH walk down the musical path of elders foregoing opportunities to invest in youth music.  This is not new - but intergenerational alienation from viable fiscal opportunities creates new dilemmas and new fissures in our communities that are unsustainable.  

There are many companies whose bottom lines are contingent on black culture...remember when FOX (under Rupert Murdoch) got back in the TV game...it was with black-oriented television shows.  The same was true of the WB and UPN for a moment.  It remains true of The Source Magazine and Phil Knight&#039;s shoe company and AndOne and all the others.  There can be no doubt that if .35 cents of every mega-church dollar was dedicated to building an infrastructure for OUR CULTURE, we would be MILES ahead of where we are today.  

When it comes down to it, I will not defend our culture from ignant-ass white folks or black folks.  If Al Goldstein and Larry Flynt and Hugh Hefner have not brought about the demise of American culture with their pimp game, it ain&#039;t gonna happen.

Our culture provides the glue to memory and the gas for an inspired future - and it positions us in a dynamic present...one based on interdependence and relationships with other groups (be they spiritual, regional, national, financial, etc.)  At the bottom of the culture, however, is excellence in the realms of math and science.

We can talk about racism until we&#039;re blue in the face, but until a generation of us achieve a critical mass of excellence in these two areas, it&#039;s a wrap.  Our place on the global stage cannot be at the back of the bus.  If it is to be at the head, we have to know more and perform better (on average) than others.  We can&#039;t negotiate that.  We can&#039;t legislate it.  We can&#039;t kill for it or die for it (not wholly).  We can snatch up free things - like library cards and MIT&#039;s curriculum and online dictionaries and science labs and access to museums and aquariums and planetariums.  We have to master our material world while living our dynamic culture...and for me that means keeping Biggie as close as I keep Sam Cooke as close as I keep Anna Julia Cooper as close as I keep Paul Robeson as close as I keep Kwame Toure as close as I keep Thutmosis III.  

I have no time nor the inclination to defend our greatness.  Our legacy is a tool to educate our youth, honor our elders and inspire my peers.  It is not something to be discussed with enemies.  Enemies are merely identified as such and dealt with accordingly.  From my vantage point, discussions with white folks about cultural depravity must begin within their cultural traditions.  By the time we&#039;re done, everyone is exhausted...if they want to talk about rock n&#039;roll lyrics or rock-porn videos or Hollywood violence or Roman Catholic predations on children or the recent spate of blond teachers molesting young boys or any manner of sickness, I&#039;m down - but the conversation will NEVER make its way around to my people.  I don&#039;t get down like that.  Straight offense-defense.

This is the place for that level of conversation and it is most appropriate that we redefine our legacy in terms of questions we need to answer for ourselves - questions that are generated by OUR OWN spiritual and material condition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve written some pieces I&#8217;m willing to share here on this topic.  Fundamentally, if Black folk are to ever have any peace of mind whatsoever, we have to prioritize and achieve world-class mastery in math, science and culture.  Each of these pursuits is dynamic &#8211; and it&#8217;s not about the judgment, it&#8217;s about the journey.  </p>
<p>Imperatives are clear &#8211; and the only thing that will really matter to subsequent generations is the work that we put in.  If you do the math across the board &#8211; quantify highly-skilled black folk in various walks of life + fiscal independence + cultural fidelity (and that can look many, many ways) = rudiments of strong families, communities and a civilization identifiable by CONTIGUOUS activities and values.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not moralizing here.  I&#8217;m not suggesting a form of cultural elitism.  I&#8217;m suggesting that we master ourselves for the sake of developing entities, organizations and collectives capable of viable inter-dependence with the rest of the world.  This is not entirely about white folks &#8211; and I don&#8217;t center them in my frameworks.  It is about the historical marker of this time and this space.</p>
<p>Black culture does not have to prove itself to anyone.  It is attacked, but it does not have to respond&#8230;it exists as a dynamic, fungible panorama &#8211; and it will be here and it will morph and it will make money and create jobs and do all the things it has always done.  Hip-hop is our SIXTH walk down the musical path of elders foregoing opportunities to invest in youth music.  This is not new &#8211; but intergenerational alienation from viable fiscal opportunities creates new dilemmas and new fissures in our communities that are unsustainable.  </p>
<p>There are many companies whose bottom lines are contingent on black culture&#8230;remember when FOX (under Rupert Murdoch) got back in the TV game&#8230;it was with black-oriented television shows.  The same was true of the WB and UPN for a moment.  It remains true of The Source Magazine and Phil Knight&#8217;s shoe company and AndOne and all the others.  There can be no doubt that if .35 cents of every mega-church dollar was dedicated to building an infrastructure for OUR CULTURE, we would be MILES ahead of where we are today.  </p>
<p>When it comes down to it, I will not defend our culture from ignant-ass white folks or black folks.  If Al Goldstein and Larry Flynt and Hugh Hefner have not brought about the demise of American culture with their pimp game, it ain&#8217;t gonna happen.</p>
<p>Our culture provides the glue to memory and the gas for an inspired future &#8211; and it positions us in a dynamic present&#8230;one based on interdependence and relationships with other groups (be they spiritual, regional, national, financial, etc.)  At the bottom of the culture, however, is excellence in the realms of math and science.</p>
<p>We can talk about racism until we&#8217;re blue in the face, but until a generation of us achieve a critical mass of excellence in these two areas, it&#8217;s a wrap.  Our place on the global stage cannot be at the back of the bus.  If it is to be at the head, we have to know more and perform better (on average) than others.  We can&#8217;t negotiate that.  We can&#8217;t legislate it.  We can&#8217;t kill for it or die for it (not wholly).  We can snatch up free things &#8211; like library cards and MIT&#8217;s curriculum and online dictionaries and science labs and access to museums and aquariums and planetariums.  We have to master our material world while living our dynamic culture&#8230;and for me that means keeping Biggie as close as I keep Sam Cooke as close as I keep Anna Julia Cooper as close as I keep Paul Robeson as close as I keep Kwame Toure as close as I keep Thutmosis III.  </p>
<p>I have no time nor the inclination to defend our greatness.  Our legacy is a tool to educate our youth, honor our elders and inspire my peers.  It is not something to be discussed with enemies.  Enemies are merely identified as such and dealt with accordingly.  From my vantage point, discussions with white folks about cultural depravity must begin within their cultural traditions.  By the time we&#8217;re done, everyone is exhausted&#8230;if they want to talk about rock n&#8217;roll lyrics or rock-porn videos or Hollywood violence or Roman Catholic predations on children or the recent spate of blond teachers molesting young boys or any manner of sickness, I&#8217;m down &#8211; but the conversation will NEVER make its way around to my people.  I don&#8217;t get down like that.  Straight offense-defense.</p>
<p>This is the place for that level of conversation and it is most appropriate that we redefine our legacy in terms of questions we need to answer for ourselves &#8211; questions that are generated by OUR OWN spiritual and material condition.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s assessments like the one you wrote that make me furious when people attribute black devaluation and problems with crime to hip-hop -- as if history doesn&#039;t point to different phenomena that may result in these perspectives, or the civil rights movement, Booker T, and DuBois are our &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; frames of reference for black improvement.  That the Civil Rights Acts in America were the ultimate solutions for racial positivity.  It&#039;s so lazy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s assessments like the one you wrote that make me furious when people attribute black devaluation and problems with crime to hip-hop &#8212; as if history doesn&#8217;t point to different phenomena that may result in these perspectives, or the civil rights movement, Booker T, and DuBois are our <i>only</i> frames of reference for black improvement.  That the Civil Rights Acts in America were the ultimate solutions for racial positivity.  It&#8217;s so lazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Fisher</title>
		<link>http://afrospear.com/2007/04/25/black-homicides-fuel-nations-murder-surge/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Fisher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for that reference. 

&quot;Their training had left them mere children, and as such they needed the protection which a wise government extends to those who are unable to protect themselves.&quot;

Children.  Hmmm... 

Consider &quot;children&quot; uneducated and lacking the basics of knowledge of geography and literacy, having been taught for generations that the white man was unassailable, God-like, passing to Union lines by the hundreds of thousands in order to enlist, fight, face death and torture, in order to face the trained killer armies of their racist masters which the Northern white boys hadn&#039;t been able to suppress in some three bloody years.

Consider 180,000 black men of military age, some 5% of the black population of the United States (at today&#039;s equivalent that would be some 2,000,000) enlisting in the Union Army to fight and kill the cruelest and worst of what humanity had to offer on the North American continent.  To free each other&#039;s families and themselves.

Consider that 60,000 died and thousands more were maimed for life.

Consider that capture by their former master&#039;s mercenary soldiers meant certain death, torture, and slavery.  No prisoner exchange for our forefathers.

Children, my a**.  THAT was our &quot;greatest generation&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that reference. </p>
<p>&#8220;Their training had left them mere children, and as such they needed the protection which a wise government extends to those who are unable to protect themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>Children.  Hmmm&#8230; </p>
<p>Consider &#8220;children&#8221; uneducated and lacking the basics of knowledge of geography and literacy, having been taught for generations that the white man was unassailable, God-like, passing to Union lines by the hundreds of thousands in order to enlist, fight, face death and torture, in order to face the trained killer armies of their racist masters which the Northern white boys hadn&#8217;t been able to suppress in some three bloody years.</p>
<p>Consider 180,000 black men of military age, some 5% of the black population of the United States (at today&#8217;s equivalent that would be some 2,000,000) enlisting in the Union Army to fight and kill the cruelest and worst of what humanity had to offer on the North American continent.  To free each other&#8217;s families and themselves.</p>
<p>Consider that 60,000 died and thousands more were maimed for life.</p>
<p>Consider that capture by their former master&#8217;s mercenary soldiers meant certain death, torture, and slavery.  No prisoner exchange for our forefathers.</p>
<p>Children, my a**.  THAT was our &#8220;greatest generation&#8221;</p>
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